Balancing Motherhood, Medicine & Mindset

In this insightful episode of Hormones, Metabolism, and You, Dr. Cassie Smith is joined by nurse practitioner Sommer Hood, APRN, ENP-C, FNP-C, to give listeners an inside look at Modern Endocrine’s functional medicine approach. From Sommer’s transition from emergency medicine to personalized, root-cause care, to the importance of empathy, teamwork, and work-life balance—the episode shines a light on what makes this clinic so unique. You’ll also hear about exciting new programs, patient-centered services, and Dr. Smith’s upcoming book. Whether you’re a healthcare provider or someone navigating chronic illness, this conversation offers both inspiration and practical takeaways.

 

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Sommer Hood, APRN, ENP-C, FNP-C is a highly skilled Advanced Practice Registered Nurse with dual certifications as an Emergency Nurse Practitioner and Family Nurse Practitioner. After earning her BSN from the University of Central Oklahoma in 2016, she worked for six years in the Emergency Department and two years as a Flight Nurse. She later completed her NP degree at the University of South Alabama and joined Modern Endocrine, where she discovered her passion for individualized, compassionate patient care.

Sommer brings warmth, dedication, and clinical excellence to her work—blending emergency experience with a functional medicine lens. Outside the clinic, she enjoys hot yoga, golfing, playing with her two kids, and sushi nights with her husband. Inspired by Kobe Bryant’s relentless drive, Sommer channels that same commitment into helping patients reclaim their health.

 

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0:02 Welcome back to this week’s episode of Hormones Metabolism and You. I’m your host, Dr. Cassie Smith. I’m a

0:08 boardcertified endocrinologist and internal medicine doctor who practices functional medicine in Oklahoma City.

0:14 Today, I have my nurse practitioner, Summer Hood. We are just going to do a

0:19 little sit down and just let you guys get to know Summer. I had her on the podcast last year. She’s grown with

0:25 Modern Endocrine over the last year. So, I wanted to just pick her brain about like what do you feel like are some of

0:31 the key things that Modern Endocrine does well? What makes our clinic different than other clinics? Let you

0:37 just get to know her and her why and why she does what she does, what she does in the clinic. Just some inside information

0:44 uh about the clinic, about us, about what we do, what is it like to work there. We go into some things about

0:50 healthy diet. We talk about some of our own personal struggles being healthcare providers and being you know she’s a mom

0:57 and so we just kind of talked just kind of unhinged talked. It was a lot of fun. My goal of this episode was for you guys

1:04 to be more comfortable with her and see all of the amazing things that she does for Modern Endocrine. She has a lot of assets that I am super happy to have in

1:13 our clinic and she’s kind of taken over Dutch testing and things like that. So

1:18 listen to this episode. Make sure you go to the end. We had some pretty awesome stuff at the end, but again, it’s just

1:23 very unhinged and truth about the struggles that we have as well and some of the things we struggle with that we

1:29 talk to our patients about as well. So, here we go. Welcome back to this week’s episode. I have my nurse practitioner,

1:36 Summer with me today. So, we’re doing more of these episodes or I’m doing more of these episodes where it’s going to be

1:42 like me solo or me and my team and we just want you guys to be able to get to know us a little bit more and we want to

1:48 give you kind of, you know, I guess real life like what is it like to work in medicine? What is it like to be a part

1:54 of modern indocrine and I mean it’s a good time right summer? Oh, it’s a blast.

2:01 It’s a blast. Every day is a new day. Every day is a new day. So Summer has been with Modern Endocrine for about 15

2:10 months now, 16 months now. Yep. She and so she came to us from the

2:16 ER. I was she had an I did an episode with her last year, so you guys may remember that. But I wanted to have her

2:24 on her, Lacy, and Dustin. We’re going to kind of just get to know Summer a little bit, ask her some questions about what

2:29 it’s like to be to work at Modern Endocrine, and just let you guys get to know her. So, we’re going to start with

2:35 what is your name? What do you do at Modern Endocrine? Why are you in medicine? How did you get here? That type of thing. So,

2:41 okay. So, I’m Summer Hood. I’m the nurse practitioner, I guess, one of the nurse practitioners now since we have Lacy and

2:47 Dustin um at Modern Endocrine. So, like Cassie said, I’ve been here for about a

2:52 year and 15 months year and some change. And I came from emergency medicine, which was, you know, crazy all the time,

3:00 12-hour shifts. Um, and coming to Modern Endocrine has been really nice cuz I’ve got more stable clinic hours, I’m able

3:06 to do this work life balance that we preach so often about in modern endocrine. Um, to help our, you know,

3:12 our adrenals, our nervous system, our mental state. So, that’s one big reason that led me to modern endocrine. And

3:19 then looking at, you know, not bandating it. That’s the, you know, epitome of the ER is what how can we stabilize you and

3:25 get you where you need to go or get you followed up with. And now I get to be the one that follows up and look at

3:31 everything from a longevity standpoint. That’s kind of what brought me here to Modern Endocrine. What was the rest of

3:36 your question? What do you do? Well, you’re a nurse practitioner and Okay, so I guess those are the main things like

3:42 what brought you here. So you came to Modern Endocrine from the ER. A lot of people listening to this will relate to

3:48 this. So you worked in an ER hospital type setting and then you came to Modern Endocrine because you wanted more of a

3:53 work life balance. So, do you think that’s been a good transition, a bad

3:58 transition? You can tell the truth. No, overall I think it’s been a really

4:05 good transition. The the one that I would say kind of stinks is, you know,

4:10 it was two or three days tops, 12-hour shift. So, you had more of a full day to get things done. But I missed bedtime

4:18 three nights a week. I missed dinner with the kids three nights a week. I missed quality time with my husband three nights a week. holidays, you know,

4:24 rotating weekends and that type of stuff. And so being able to have those clinic hours and being able to spend

4:31 that purposeful time with my kids, um they’re older now from the last podcast, so I’ve got a four-year-old and a 2 and

4:36 1/ halfyear-old. Um and these are it’s really important years to be able to spend quality time with them and um you

4:43 know, make sure that you try to make them grow into fun little beings. So,

4:48 you know, yes, having, you know, less days off is a downside, but having more

4:53 quality time with the family and weekends and holidays, I mean, that’s priceless. 100% priceless.

4:59 Yeah. So, I think, you know, I hear that a lot from our patients, too. Like people that, you know, work in traditional healthcare, maybe work in

5:05 ERS, do three day a week, you know, two, three day a week work days, but they’re very long days. Although that seems

5:12 better. I feel like if you work two or three really long days, but it takes you two days to recover, then it’s probably

5:18 really not better. And like you said, you are missing all this quality time with your family, not to mention your

5:23 sleep cycle, etc. And I just remember when I was in the ER, like you said,

5:28 it’s so frustrating because you band-aid things. You don’t get to talk to anyone about lifestyle, nutrition, anything

5:34 like that. And then you have no idea what the hell happens to those people, right? Like unless they just continually come back, you know? But like you don’t

5:41 you don’t know what happened to those people. So it’s like did I help them? Did I not help them? And unfortunately

5:46 more and more people in this country use the ER as a primary care setting instead of an actual emergency room. So you know

5:54 we have a lot of things that come through the ER that shouldn’t be in the ER probably, but it I mean it’s just

6:00 it’s very different. So yeah. So we’re glad that you transitioned from the ER.

6:06 We’re glad that you transition. I’m very I’m very glad. I’m very glad. And we we have a really fun team. We’ve

6:11 got a great front office. We’ve got some awesome MAS and nurses. And you know, I know you and I are both excited about

6:18 Dustin and Lacy coming on and and being on the provider side with us. Yes. Love them both. Dustin is

6:24 hilarious, by the way. And now that he’s out of his little shell. And Lacy is like so sweet and so amazing, too. So,

6:32 I’m super excited. And I was going to say too, I pretty sure every time I talk to your husband, he’s also excited that

6:38 you don’t work in the ER anymore because I’m pretty sure he hated feeding your children.

6:43 He, you know, he’s he did great at single dad duty. He did not love single

6:49 dad duty, which is fair because I don’t like single mom duty when he works late. So, yeah, it’s been better for

6:55 everybody. Absolutely everybody, for sure. So, you’re welcome, Kefir. That’s right. There you go.

7:01 So, yeah. Fun fact, too. Summer’s husband is an identical twin, so that’s

7:06 exciting, too. But you can tell them apart, right? Easy. Yeah. Yeah. His identical twin works the farm and ranch that they grew

7:13 up on. And I feel like they grew into their careers. I think Kefir looks like his he’s in medical sales, so he looks

7:19 like a medical sales guy. And Connor is his twin. And he looks like a farmer. And they look enough alike, but

7:25 definitely different in mine and my sister-in-law’s opinion. We don’t get them mixed up. So that’s a good thing. So, I want to

7:33 know from you, how would you describe modern endocrine to somebody you just met? So, if somebody said like, “What do

7:39 you do, you know, or tell me about the place you work at?” What would you say? I’d say, I mean, the name kind of says

7:44 it all, modern endocrine. It’s kind of this, you know, newer idea of endocrinology because, you know,

7:50 traditional endocrinology and you and I have had patients from other endocrinology offices be like, you know,

7:56 I just show up, get this regimen, and off I go based on my hypothyroidism, low hormones, um, and they don’t look at

8:04 this indepth picture of what their levels actually look like. And so with the modern endocrine, how you know

8:11 you’ve created it and how we’ve kind of come along with you is we really look in

8:16 depth at all things hormones, whether that’s sex hormones, thyroid hormones,

8:21 we do uh weight loss, but you know, we talk about doing it a more effective

8:27 way. You know, first three questions are always what’s your water intake look like? What’s your diet look like? And

8:32 what’s your exercise look like? And then, you know, protein intake is within the diet. and we really talk about

8:37 appropriate dosing of GLP1s and to make sure people do it the safe way and the

8:43 way that’s sustainable for weight loss, not the quick and easy way. So I first and foremost I kind of tell them all

8:48 about that. We do all things hormones. We do, you know, some weight loss. We look at gut health. And by we, I mean,

8:55 you know, you kind of take the lead on that with Sarah and I know Dustin Lacy are coming on with that. And I like to

9:01 look at the Dutch testing which is more of a how do you metabolize your sex hormones? How do you metabolize your

9:07 stress hormones? I really love that. So I try to stay in that focus and then you know you you focus on the gut health

9:14 part. We have you know red light therapy and cold plunging. We have a little bit of aesthetics. We have IV room that you

9:22 can get ozone you know cocktail. You know a migraine cocktail. some

9:28 day-to-day stuff people might need to drop in for. And then I mean I think you’re proud of it too is I to my

9:33 knowledge we’re one of very few places in the metro that does iron infusions for people who truly need iron and not

9:40 because they’re they’ve been so iron deficient over time that they become anemic. Like we’re able to step in and

9:45 give them iron before it gets really bad. Y in addition to albumin too, you know, we give people with POTS album. So yeah,

9:52 I mean I would agree with all that. I think we have this really cool place, like you said, where we try to actually

9:58 give you root cause solutions and not just give you the same prescription or the same plan that the person before you

10:04 got. I think that’s why it’s more difficult too to kind of work in our clinic. Like, you know, sometimes

10:10 patients will say, you know, well, you’ve had several nurse practitioners or PAs. I’m like, well, yeah, cuz I only

10:15 have really good ones. Like, you can’t suck and work here. And you have to actually like care and be empathetic and

10:22 want to be able to like figure these things out with people, right? Like it’s not an easy job sometimes, but it’s a

10:29 very rewarding job. And I think like you kind of nailed it. It’s just that what I

10:34 envisioned when I made modern indic

10:39 people could come and get well where I I kind of made this clinic based off of

10:45 what I wanted 15 years ago. Like whenever I had hypothyroidism and I had Graves and then I was really sick and

10:50 nobody would tell me what I could do other than take a medication that made me feel terrible and then I got hypothyroid and then I got insulin

10:56 resistance and PCOS and was having all these issues with my period and I kept saying like well what is causing this?

11:01 Like how can I get better? Can I eat something and I no just take your medicine, you know? And I was like this really sucks. Like I want to go

11:07 somewhere where somebody has a better answer than that. So, I think that’s kind of what I want at Modern Endocrine is like there to be this place you can

11:13 go to actually truly heal, get an education that’s, you know, going to benefit you and that’s actually

11:19 sciencebacked and, you know, that is individualized to you. So, I think

11:25 that’s what we do really, really well. And you kind of answered my next question, which was like, what is the thing that you love doing there? And

11:31 that’s I mean, you do all the Dutch testing for us, which people love. I had somebody ask me about that today. you

11:37 kind of have taken that and kind of just started that and and really like empowered our patients with allowing us

11:44 to do that for them and have learned a lot of that and just really helped people figure out how they’re metabolizing their hormones which helps

11:50 us, you know, their gut, their their Dutch testing. So, I mean, we’re we’re able to offer a lot of really cool stuff

11:57 that modern endocrine do that a lot of people don’t. Genetic testing, hormone testing, advanced hormone testing, gut

12:03 testing. So, yeah. Well, and you know, like I think one of the coolest parts about us and

12:09 you know, now Lacy and Dustin is, you know, if I’m stumped or you’re stumped or one of the other two are stumped,

12:16 it’s so quick and easy to be like, “Hey, let me run this by you real quick and make sure my thought process is the same

12:22 or tell me if I’m missing something because, you know, it could change. One day your mental process is like, okay,

12:27 yeah, like this, this, and this.” And then the next day you look at that same situation and you’re like, “Oh, what

12:33 about this?” And so to get real time different perspectives on everything like I know I took a Dutch test to you

12:39 the other day for one of our mutual patients. She sees you p primarily and then I’m doing her Dutch test and I was

12:45 like hey is based on her Dutch test she looks malnourished. She looks like she’s not eating enough protein. She looks

12:52 like she’s probably not sleeping well. Are you doing a gut protocol on her because her indic.

13:02 And so it’s cool to see how your specialty like with the GI stuff and like me diving into the Dutch test, how

13:08 they complement each other to prove or disprove kind of what our thought process was cuz you know people say

13:16 these tests aren’t diagnostic and sure officially but when both things are saying the same thing that’s like even

13:22 more to our thought process and point of this is what’s wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And I think the other cool thing we have, not only like we all work

13:29 with each other’s strengths and weaknesses, but I also love that like all four of us are very like just easy

13:34 to talk to, all willing to jump in and help and just yeah, we can run things by each other. So like you put me down this

13:41 damn rabbit hole recently with nicotine patches and gone. Nobody

13:46 Nobody get on Reddit or the dark web and start looking about nicotine patches and help. Do not do it. Um

13:56 Listen, I I will stand by the I have not seen research on it, but I’ve seen a lot of cool information about it.

14:02 Right. Right. And we are not condoning nicotine on this either. No, but I think it’s cool that like yes,

14:08 we can go to each other and say like, well, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? Or Dustin came up to me today and was like, hey, look

14:13 at this. You know, I saw this. I read this. What do you think about this? And so then I’m like, well, I don’t know. Now I’m going to have to figure that out. So we also like keep each other or

14:20 like, you know, we’ll send each other a a what’s it called? podcast episode or whatever, like, “Hey, did you hear

14:25 this?” And so, I think it’s just really cool that we have people that really want to learn, want to be in this space,

14:31 want to help people. And I kind of tell people this, I’m sort of not kidding, but I think that they think I’m kidding.

14:36 I started Modern Endocrine in November of 2022, and I literally have been building the plane while I’m flying it.

14:42 Like, I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. I was just like, I need a clinic where people can go and actually get

14:48 real help. And I’ve always been good at hormones and thyroid. And then I was like, I got to figure out how to do gut stuff. So, while I’m flying the plane,

14:54 last year I’m trying to build the the gut section out of the, you know, the gut wing of the plane. And so, we’ve kind of figured that out. Thankfully, we

15:01 got Sarah. And then, you know, you’re like, “Hey, let’s do Dutch testing.” I’m like, “Fine, let’s do it.” You know, we’ve just kind of been building this

15:07 cool space while we’re kind of flying the plane. And so, who knows what it’s going to be in 2 or 3 years. Like, I

15:13 think I know where I want it to go. But I also appreciate and love the fact that we have people that just kind of like

15:18 get on board and it’s like, “Well, I guess we’ll see what we’re doing tomorrow.” like yeah no patients better that’s what

15:26 we’re doing yeah no I completely agree and I think you know one thing in this space of

15:32 medicine is and like for patients to realize a lot of it is clinical like a

15:37 lot of it’s like pulling from research that’s been very recent you know traditional providers really aren’t

15:42 going to be aware of it or care to look into it but a lot of it’s also clinical like hey this is what we’re seeing

15:49 clinically this is what’s helping clinically And if you’re willing to try it, you can

15:54 assuming, you know, safety wise and everything like that. But also the, you know, the initiative is in you as a

16:01 patient, too. Like we’ve like the whole nicotine thing you just brought up. Again, we’re not condoning it on this

16:06 episode, but I had a patient tell me on two different occasions to look into it. And I’m like, okay. Like she’s told me

16:13 twice now I’m I’ve got to look into it. And I, you know, started looking into it and then we started talking about it. And so we’re still looking into it, just

16:19 so you guys know. But, you know, again, a lot of it’s clinical. I heard this podcast. Now, let’s dive into this and

16:26 find as much information about this as possible. I’m seeing this and understanding this. How are you

16:31 understanding this information and working together on how we can provide it safely for our patients,

16:36 which I think is so cool. And yeah, it’s I mean, you literally like kind of build the plane while you fly it. And so,

16:41 that’s what we’ve been doing. And so far, I mean, I think it’s been successful. And I do appreciate, you

16:46 know, I appreciate our patients who are letting us, you know, figure out figure this stuff out with them as we, you

16:53 know, go along cuz our ultimate goal is to make everyone feel better and to just continue to utilize all the information

16:58 that’s out there and to you, like you said, a lot of things in medicine are clinical. This is why most doctors that

17:04 just practice by the book and work for hospital systems are 10 years behind. When you start to realize something’s

17:10 working, you see it clinically. We do so many labs. We see people every 2 to 3 months. I mean, we have so many data

17:16 points. You’re like, “Holy crap, this can’t be coincidental.” And when you do it on a thousand people and, you know,

17:21 96% of them get better. You’re like, “This is not coincidental. There’s obviously some science here.” But it takes 10 years to get a randomized

17:28 control trial put together. And, you know, now obviously you want to be safe, but like you can do that in clinics with

17:34 patients as long as you’re, you know, providing them the right education, talking to them about side effects, and they have a way to to reach you. And so

17:41 I think that’s where we get to do a lot of really cool stuff too. You know, we’ve been using STEM region recently and I’m getting data for them. And so

17:48 it’s just really exciting what you can do if you just aren’t so close-minded

17:54 and like everything has to fit in a box and if you really truly like want to make people better, you know?

18:00 Yeah, absolutely. And that’s why like we love when patients are like, “Hey, have you looked into this?” And if we have,

18:06 then we kind of let you guys know the information as we know it. And if we haven’t had that chance, then maybe I’ve

18:12 known about it or have thought about it and Cassie’s like hearing it for the first time or vice versa where I’m like,

18:18 “Hey, Cassie, have you heard of anybody talking about XYZ?” And, you know, going

18:23 off, yeah, a little bit. But now that we’ve had four patients ask us consistently like, “Let’s really really

18:29 look into that.” And that’s how Dutch testing came about for me is I had two personal friends ask me about it. And I

18:35 had two patients all in the same week. I’m I’m big on signs all in the same week that’s asked me about it and I’m

18:41 like all right that’s it got to figure it out you know and I know you’re the same way and that’s kind of how gut stuff came up for you.

18:46 Yeah. And to be fair I knew we needed to do Dutch testing for like a year but I was like deep

18:52 I know you were at your limit stuff and so I’m like I just don’t have time. So when Summer came to me I was like yes

18:58 we need to do it. You have to take like ownership of this though because I literally can’t right now. And so she

19:04 has, which I love. And it’s been really good for our practice, you know. But

19:10 that’s yeah, I mean it’s and and the cool thing too is like if we do come across something where a patient brings something up or we think of something

19:16 and we’re like, I don’t know. I mean thankfully things like this, like this podcast and just some of the connections

19:21 that I have, I’ve got to know so many amazing people in this space and we can

19:26 just reach out to them if we have questions. You know, I I know I know the best supplement formulator in the world.

19:32 one of my good friends like I can text him if we have a question. I know really good people when it comes to peptides, best peptide therapy people. I know the

19:39 best places to geties, the people who, you know, make them who who do research on them. Like I can just reach out to

19:45 these people like, “Hey, what about this?” And usually, thankfully, people are really nice and respond to me because I try to be nice to everyone.

19:51 So, you know, we have these different ways of learning which is pretty cool. And like Dustin was looking at the

19:56 what’s it called? A4M lineup for pediatrics this year. It’s in October. It’s in Boston. Uh because Dustin used

20:03 to do PES and he but they have a lot of uh adolescent stuff. So he was showing it to me today and he’s like look at

20:09 this lineup. You talk about a rockstar lineup for A4M for peds this year but I

20:14 like know almost every the every one of the people speaking. I was like that person’s been on my podcast. I know that person. That person’s I was like this is

20:20 amazing you know like it’s so cool. So Dustin was like well so if we have questions we can just ask all these

20:26 people. I’m like yeah 100%. Like I know how to get a hold of all of them. So, it’s just really cool when you have like

20:32 that ability because it changes people’s lives when you’re willing to like step outside of that comfort zone. And I

20:38 think because we don’t take insurance, which some people are so mad about, but like because nobody is dictating what we

20:44 do or telling us what we can or cannot do with your our time with you and how we treat you, we’re able to do that,

20:51 right? So, if you come to us with an issue, like I saw a girl today who has pretty significant alopecia. I’m talking

20:57 like I was shocked, floored at 26. And we spent a lot of times in in rabbit

21:05 holes and in the weeds and doing all sorts of stuff today like thinking outside the box because we can cuz she paid to see me and I have 45 minutes to

21:11 talk to her about whatever I want to talk to her about. I don’t have to talk to her about anything other than what we want to talk about. So, we went down all

21:17 sorts of rabbit holes about her alipcation. We’re going to do some stuff. But I just think it’s really cool when you can really set and like think

21:24 about somebody’s problem and try to actually solve it as opposed to like just band-aiding it and then kicking

21:30 them out the door and then going to the next patient, right? I don’t know. It’s just

21:35 No, no. I I completely agree. I enjoy I enjoy truly enjoy getting to be like,

21:41 “What does your water intake look like?” It’s pretty good. And you’re like, “Okay, what’s pretty good, though?” Like are you drinking a Yeti, a Stanley, one

21:49 bottle of water? What are you drink? Like we Yeah, we have the we have the time to really tease out pretty good,

21:56 right? Because otherwise we’re just take we or other providers are just taking your word for what that feels like.

22:02 What’s your bedtime routine like? Oh, it’s good. You know, I go to bed at 10:00. Okay, but what are you doing before that? Are you watching TV? Are

22:09 you on your phone? Are you working? I know Cassie and I are both guilty of that, too. At least we wear blue light

22:14 blocking glasses. You know, there’s certain steps to take to make sure that you your sleep hygiene is good, your

22:21 day-to-day is good, and we have the time to do that. So, what do you love most about your job?

22:26 All of it. Is that a thing? I like the I like I like the patient connection. Like truly getting to know somebody and being

22:33 able to, you know, at the very beginning be like, you know, how are you doing as a person? Because what we forget is

22:40 community and connection are a huge part of our health. And then you know after checking on everybody and how they’re

22:46 doing as people then we kind of dive into okay how have you been feeling what you know what have you noticed or not noticed. So, I guess that’s if I had to

22:54 say something besides all of it would be, you know, getting to know my patients as people and understanding

23:00 like, okay, this is what we’re dealing with. And that helps me as a provider really figure try to figure out how we

23:05 can optimize them versus just make them feel better. 100%. The only reason I work as hard as

23:11 I do is because I love seeing people every day that actually get better. Like it’s the most rewarding feeling in the

23:16 world when my patients come in and they start at a I mean not all of them start completely like I don’t want to call

23:22 them a train wreck but with lots of issues, right? But a lot of people that come to us are just like they’re tired,

23:27 things aren’t working right, they but it’s just so cool when you like turn

23:32 everything around and they come back and they’re just like they look different, they feel different, they act different because then they go out into the world

23:39 and give the world what they were put here and meant to do and then that changes the trajectory of the world. It’s like ripples, you know, like

23:45 whenever I was a kid, I used to throw rocks. I used to love to skip rocks. And it’s like that first rock and then all

23:50 those ripples, like when you fix someone, it’s just really cool to think like all the good they’re going to do in

23:55 the world that they couldn’t do prior to that. So, 100% I agree with you. It’s like seeing people get better

24:02 fuels my soul, which is why like my husband’s like, “You shouldn’t work so much.” I’m like, “Well, there’s so many people that are sick,

24:09 you know?” So, I I completely agree. So, what have you learned by working at

24:15 Modern Endocrine? What? Sorry, you cut out. What have I learned with what? What What have you learned by working at

24:21 Modern Endocrine? Oh, man. So, I actually make this joke with some of my nursing school friends

24:27 that know me well. Like if you would have told me I’d be like in this endocrinology space in nursing school, I

24:33 would have like laughed in your face cuz it was it was kind of difficult to comprehend the entire like positive

24:40 feedback loop, negative feedback loop, all of these really intricate things that go on with your hormones. And so

24:47 understanding, you know, now that I’ve been in endocrinology for, you know, over a year is the in-depth of it. And

24:55 that a lot of how you feel is based in all of this, but it’s synergistically.

25:00 It’s your sex hormones affect your thyroid, and your thyroid affects your sex hormones and your gut. And so

25:05 learning that there is a domino like you just said this ripple effect um of

25:11 illness and often times it starts with you know something in the gut that dominoes into your sex hormones or

25:18 your adrenal fatigue that dominoes into your gut. And so learning that that true

25:23 depth of the nature of illness versus from the ER background of we have an

25:28 acute appendicitis. Uh it’s inflammation of the appendix and it needs out like that’s it you know. Um

25:36 but now I’m thinking okay how did it get inflamed? How long has it been inflamed? You know that type of thing.

25:42 And knowing you I’m really surprised don’t take this the wrong way. I’m really surprised that you put up with

25:48 the ER as long as you did because you are such a like complex broad thinker and you’re such a like how do I solve

25:55 problems almost to I told you this like you Summer took a personality test you guys and the company that I paid to do

26:02 our personality test called me and they were like we would like to talk to her because she has the highest eye I have

26:09 ever seen and like she’s the person that puts people on other planets like she literally will solve like she will dig

26:17 and dig and dig until she solves a problem. They were literally blown away by this test that I gave you. They like

26:22 wanted to meet you and they’re like, “She she’s a problem solver. That’s what she does.” And you are. I know that about you now. So, I am always when I

26:29 think about that, it makes me kind of giggle that you were just sitting in an ER for years just like handing out prescriptions for pain medicine and

26:35 taking people’s appendix out and not really thinking about like what was going on because I know how your brain actually works and what you are really

26:42 good at. So to me, that’s just interesting that you put up with it that long. But I’m glad that you’re now in the space where you’re like, you can do

26:49 the things that God gave you the talent to do, which is like put all these pieces together. And I know you embraced

26:54 it really quickly cuz when you first started, I was like, how is this going to go? But immediately you were like in all the podcasts and sending me podcast

27:01 and I was like, “Okay, yeah, it’s good. We’ll be good.” Yeah. You know, the the ER is an interesting place. If you ask

27:07 most people who have been in the ER, like it’s kind of like this traumatic relationship. you just can’t ever fully

27:14 get away. Like I I left the ER and I went back and I left the ER and I went back and then as a provider it’s what I

27:20 knew and I was pretty good at it. And so I just stuck with what I knew and what I

27:26 was good at. And there is there is some complexity complexity to it in some cases you know trying to foresee you

27:33 know a COPD patients um you know downfall before they and putting them on

27:39 something like BiPAP or innovating them before it’s too late. So, I enjoyed probably the the complexity from that

27:45 perspective. Um, but no, this is like a whole another level of critical thinking.

27:50 What you enjoyed was the dopamine rushes. Yeah, you enjoyed the dopamine rush is like the little but then in

27:56 between you were like meh, I think. But yeah, that I I had a lot of people tell me that that working in the ER is like

28:01 an abusive relationship. I mean, we the sad thing is is we all joke about that because it kind of is

28:09 a narcissistic abusive relationship. Well, hopefully you’re you’re done with that. We’ve moved on.

28:14 I mean, I haven’t I haven’t had a shift in a long long long time. So, I think I think we may have pulled me out of that

28:22 life. Sorry, not sorry. Er, yeah, there you go.

28:27 So, I want to ask some like quick questions like this or that or like give

28:32 me one like quick answers and then if you I think you said you might have some questions, we can kind of go back and

28:38 forth, but I want people to kind of get to know you a little bit. What is one thing about you that is interesting that

28:44 people might not know besides the fact that now everyone knows that you can wakeboard cuz they saw that cool post that I put out about you wakeboarding.

28:50 If you heard my dog bark, I’m sorry. Um, right here making all sorts of noises, too.

28:56 Um, so honestly, I think my two go-tos of like a fun fact would be my brother,

29:02 my younger brother’s nine months and three weeks younger, so Irish twins. Basically grew up with a twin. So, um,

29:09 that’s one of my fun facts. Uh, and then I’m actually a quarter, uh, Vietnamese,

29:14 so my grandma’s full Vietnamese. So, those are kind of like my two kind of get to know me fun facts.

29:19 And it’s true cuz I know her mother. So, both of those when I asked her mother what she was thinking about the first

29:26 statement, but the second one, now that I’m a grown adult with children, I also asked her the same

29:32 thing. I thought it was cool growing up, but mom, what were you think? Yeah. like what’s going on here?

29:40 Um, if you weren’t working at Modern Endocrine or in the field of medicine,

29:45 what would your dream job be if you couldn’t do medicine? That is a really good question. I like

29:50 ever since I was little, it’s always kind of been like helping people in medicine. Um, so

29:59 it’s always been helping people. What would I do otherwise? I actually really enjoy teaching. I think you and I talked

30:05 about that the other day when um Lacy and Dustin came on and I had said like, “Oh, they’re more than welcome to hang

30:11 out with me as well and learn because I I love teaching.” So, I think teaching

30:16 um would probably be where I would where else I would be. Um and you know, I hope

30:21 my p I hope our patients, but my patients see how much I love teaching in our appointments because I try to

30:27 systematically go through everything. You know what’s funny is I wrote down next to that teacher. I already pegged

30:32 that for you. What about you? I told you we were going to go back and forth. You always host

30:38 the podcast. I feel like people don’t get to know you as well. I think if I wasn’t in medicine, I 100%

30:45 would want to be a teacher of some sort. But I think it would be more to like a broad scale. So, I don’t know if it

30:51 would be like a talk show host or a TV host or just like a professional podcaster, but like one to many

30:57 teaching, but then I would want to do it on something about like health and wellness. So, I don’t know that that’s a

31:02 really good Now, I will tell you this. The other thing I would actually love to do a lot though is um being like a uh

31:08 what’s it called? Personal trainer. Like I love helping people like work out. I My husband gets so mad when we travel.

31:14 Like I literally went up to this girl like two weekends ago and I was like, “You can’t lift weights like that. You’re going to hurt yourself. Like do

31:20 it like this.” And he’s like, “Nobody wants you to show them how to.” I was like, “I don’t care. She going to hurt her back.” Like, you know,

31:28 I know. Don’t even go there. I know. Remember what time you were lifting in running shoes and I tore you up?

31:34 Remember? I used to lift weights in running shoes, you guys, because I used to do like cared about cardio way too much. And

31:40 then Summer used to work out with me um on Saturdays, although she moved now and she doesn’t anymore, but she’s We need

31:47 to do that again. It was fun. I know. We really do. We show up one Saturday I show up one Saturday to lift weights with her and she’s like, “Where

31:53 are your shoes, y’all?” She’s in like has like the rolly has shoes.

31:58 She’s like She’s trying to squat. Yeah. She’s like, “Take them off. You’d be better off just not wearing shoes.”

32:03 I’m like, “Can you not wear shoes at a gym?” And she’s like, “Take those off. You’re going to hurt yourself.” She’s like, “You’re such an idiot.”

32:10 But I was like, “Whatever. This girl’s crazy.” So then I actually, she sent me a link to two shoes, so I got a pair of

32:15 them and I wore them. And literally, I was getting this weird like shin knee pain whenever I lifted weights. I swear

32:21 to God it went away. And I was like, “I’m not going to tell her cuz she’s an [ __ ] I’m not going to tell her.” So finally I was like, “Okay.” It went

32:27 away. And she’s like, “Of course it did.” Because you were wearing the wrong shoes, you idiot. Yes. Like, think about it. If you’re on

32:33 rolling running shoes, this is anybody who’s doing legs. Like, if you’re on rolling running shoes, when you squat,

32:39 your your weight distribution changes and it puts pressure on ligaments that it should not put pressure on.

32:46 Yeah. So, I would be a personal trainer, but I would make you wear lifting shoes and not running shoes.

32:51 There you go. What is one word that describes you best if you had to pick one word?

32:57 Loyal. loyal. I like that. Yeah, I like that.

33:04 Yeah, I feel like Yeah, I’m a very loyal person. Like I I mean, you know, with

33:10 patience, I’ll I promise I’m not going to give up. I’ll try to figure it out. You’ll give up before I do, and I know

33:16 you’ve said that, too. So, um yeah, I’d say loyal. I like it.

33:22 What is your go-to healthy meal? I think I know this, too. What’s a weird go-to

33:29 healthy meal? Because I can think of one that you eat that’s real weird. Um, I mean, quick and easy go-to would

33:36 be like ground beef, eggs, and rice. And then throw in like some type of vegetable, whether that’s like broccoli

33:42 or edetamame. That it’s pretty easy to get the kids to eat that, too. So, so y’all think what Summer kind of got

33:50 me addicted to. She eats ground beef and cottage cheese, which sounds really disgusting, but she’s like, “Just think

33:57 about it. It’s super easy. All you need is ground beef. You can even throw cottage cheese on it cold. You can eat it cold. It’s a bunch of protein. It’s

34:03 two things you like. Just put it together.” And I was like, “That’s the most disgusting thing I’ve ever heard.” And then I had some rice and I put beef

34:10 on it one night and some I do lactoseree cottage cheese or non-dairy cottage cheese and it’s actually really good.

34:17 It’s like the one of the best quickest easiest ways to get your protein and I I that’s fair. I do bring it for lunch

34:24 very often so I know you see me eat that and it’s weird and people are like what is that and if you put some Sriracha on

34:29 it it’s fire. So good. So then let me ask you this. Patients ask this all the time. How the

34:36 heck do you get 120 grams of protein a day? So, how do you get 120 grams of protein? What’s that look like for you?

34:43 I eat usually in the morning some eggs. So, I usually do like half a cup egg whites. I use like half a cup of egg

34:49 whites and I do one whole egg. I don’t love the yolk of eggs. Just the consistency taste kind of weirds me out.

34:56 But you need choline. So, I can do one. Especially if this sounds really weird, but I’m just going to be honest with you

35:02 completely unhindered. I like to take my egg, I make it sunny side up, and I like to dump it upside down on my bread. I

35:09 have this um sourdough bread, eorn sourdough, sourdough bread that I heat up. So, I freeze it and then I heat it

35:16 up every morning so my doesn’t spike my blood sugar. It’s good for your stomach. And I toast it and then I put butter on

35:22 it and salt and olive oil. And then I like to put my egg upside down on it and let the yolk on my egg run on my toast.

35:27 I know that’s so weird, but that’s Get it a little soggy. That’s it makes it soggy. And so I have my one egg on my toast and I put avocado on

35:34 there too because I have avocado and my eggs and I sometimes even put ground beef in my eggs. And then I So that’s

35:40 usually like 30 or 40 grams. And then I have our gut fuel almost every day now because of the fiber and that has

35:46 protein. It tastes really good by the way y’all. It’s like what? Strawberry kiwi. It is so good. It’s so good. I put my creatine in

35:53 there. I put my anositol in there. I put my gut fuel in there. I shake it up. Eight ounces of water. So there’s a

35:59 little bit of protein for you there. Usually at lunch I have something like weird that Summer eats like r. I usually

36:04 have rice with a vegetable and some sort of meat. Today I had chicken. Sometimes I do beef. I like to put cottage cheese

36:10 on there now because because I do um so that’s another like 40 g of protein. And

36:16 then I usually have like fish or chicken at dinner. I like sweet potatoes. Um I

36:22 do some soup sometimes like taco soup. And so then if I don’t get enough protein through those things, the other

36:29 thing I’ll do is maybe like some Greek yogurt and berries or I will have a protein shake. But I mean for me it’s

36:34 pretty easy because I just make sure that I have some sort of protein source. I do beans. Um so I don’t know. How do

36:40 you do it? I mean that’s pretty much I don’t know. I mean probably fairly similar. Um sometimes I’ll drink a

36:48 protein shake right when I get up cuz I have to work out in the morning or I’m not working out just with my kids schedules and work schedule. So, um, a

36:56 lot of times I’ll drink like half a protein shake and then, uh, froth the other half and put it in my Nespresso,

37:02 so then I can have like a protein coffee latte to finish like the rest of it. It’s so good. Um, and then I make

37:10 between me and my kids, I make four eggs every morning and so I end up eating two

37:15 and a half, three, and they have the rest. Um, I make my kids eat eggs every single morning. I want them to have

37:21 protein because I know the rest of the day they’re going to have carbs. Um, and it tends to keep them from having high

37:28 and lows on the sugars. Um, which you know, tantrums, that type of thing. So,

37:34 um, eggs to start with, protein shake, sometimes a breakfast sausage. If my son

37:40 wants that, then I’ll like nibble on his too. Um, and then lunch is going to be

37:46 ground beef, cottage cheese type of thing. Uh, sometimes it’s chicken thighs.

37:52 Chick I just get worn out with chicken breast. Do you? Yeah, I do beef and broccoli a lot. That

37:58 beef and broccoli is good. I like chicken soup. Um, so if I’m doing chicken, I like a

38:04 thigh, but you have to eat more of it because it has less protein than a breast. So then you got to think about the fats with it, which, you know, with

38:10 us, we really just tell our patients who who are starting, just count your protein. It’s too stressful to count

38:15 everything else with how busy everybody is. Just count your protein. So, but chicken thighs I’m a big fan of. We do a

38:21 bunch of red meat, whether it’s steak, often it’s ground lake ground beef, bison. I know I got you to try that

38:27 ancestral blend. There’s a force of nature. It’s um heart, liver, and

38:33 kidneys. Maybe it’s not bad. If you take one pack of that and one pack of ground beef and mix it together, you can’t

38:38 tell. But it’s I mean, that’s a I’m so glad my dog didn’t want to eat it. It’s bad.

38:43 Listen, it my kids eat it. They’re It’s fine. No, it’s fine. But and then

38:50 I have a protein shake on my way from work to get the kids. Um, and then

38:56 dinner, like I said, is ground beef, rice, some type of veggie is most commonly it. The other thing I forgot about protein

39:02 that I do love when you were talking about your children. So, Summer’s child is he might be my child. He loves peanut

39:08 butter as much as I love peanut butter. Trip, sweet, trip. He loves peanut butter on anything, including just a

39:15 spoon. So, I do get some of my protein. I And sadly though, I don’t do peanut butter anymore. I literally haven’t had

39:21 peanut butter in like 2 months because I have a patient who’s a peanut farmer and he told me how nasty peanuts are and how

39:27 much mold they have in them. And he literally was like showing me pictures and I almost cried. So, I literally have

39:32 not had peanut butter for 2 months, but I am doing almond butter. I love a good nut butter on here’s one of my

39:39 favorites. Rice cake, nut butter, bananas. Oh, little bit of salt. Sounds pretty good. So, like I do

39:46 it’s so good. And you can put jelly on it too if you have like homemade jelly. Like I make jelly out of blueberries. Um

39:52 but anyways, so that’s another way you can get protein is yogurts are big. Like I’ll I’ll eat the

39:58 chabani or the pro Greek yogurt. Um that’s a lot of times like my dessert.

40:03 Like I’ll put some unreal peanut M&M’s like appropriate serving size obviously, but I don’t be like my ice cream, you

40:10 know? Like, and that’s the thing is you don’t have to be perfect all the time.

40:15 Like, if you’re doing right by yourself the majority of the time, we’re big 8020

40:20 fans, like big 8020 fans. And so, if getting a little bit more protein with a

40:25 small handful of Unreal Peanut M&M’s cuz they don’t have the dyes in them, highly suggest for the kids as well. Um, that’s

40:32 like dessert and it’s perfect. And you’re teaching like for me I think of it as I’m teaching my kids better

40:37 habits. Like yes, you can have something sweet in the evening, but it’s better than ice cream or a cake or a cookie or

40:44 something like that. And then go for a walk after you eat it. I mean Yeah. Get that nighttime light, too. I’m

40:50 big on the night the the natural light. So salty or sweet?

40:59 Salty. really early bird or night? Keeper’s the sweet. Keeper’s the

41:04 sweet. Yeah, that’s true. Cookie Monster is married to a man that I like to call the cookie monster. Just so you all

41:10 because he is he’ll eat like like if y’all know the sweet Laurens cookies that are like they’re like this big. But

41:17 he’ll cook a whole pack and he’ll eat all of them and leave me, my son, and my daughter one each and he’ll have the

41:24 other nine. And we love you, Kefir. This is nothing. This is just

41:29 honestly, we got to appreciate it because then if he he didn’t eat it, I probably would. So, he’s kind of looking out for me. I appreciate it.

41:35 And I also appreciate the fact that you see your doctor regularly and you take care of all of your metabolic issues.

41:41 So, you still are not unhealthy. My husband also loves cookies. So, we kind

41:47 of jokingly call Kefir and Rob the cookie monsters because Rob also is known to maybe go to some places and

41:54 grab some cookies, hide them in the pantry, and then eat on them. And then when I find them, he gets mad at me and says, “You would find a You always find

42:01 my hidden cookies.” Like, “What is your problem?” Like, “Well, if you were hiding cookies, you would have to look for them.

42:08 Totally get it. Totally get it.” Um, I don’t even know how we got off on the rampage. Oh, because this sweet.

42:13 Okay. Yeah. Um, but we do love you, Kefir and Rob. 100% love you. So, early

42:19 bird or night owl? I know the answer. Early bird. Yep. Summers out at like 5:00 a.m., too.

42:24 She’s insane. That’s the only time I can. The only summer or winter?

42:31 Summer thousand%. 100 million% summertime. Yeah. Rain or shine?

42:38 Shine. Yeah. Walk or run. [Music]

42:43 I like a walk. I can run and I will run. But if I’m enjoying or trying to settle,

42:49 walk. What about walk or bike? Cuz I know how much you like your bike. Your pelon.

42:54 walk or pelon. Pelaton 100%. I love my Pelaton.

43:00 I know. If it’s once a week, I’ll give you that. That’s my I do I did a hit today. It’s my one hit once a week.

43:06 I think I told you I went to a bike class a couple weekends ago at Sweat Society. Um it was freaking hard, but it

43:14 was I felt really good afterwards. It was so hard. They were like, “Stand up, sit down, do you know?” I was like, “What the hell is going on? Get your

43:21 weight. Move it around.” I’m like, I’m shooting out a bike. Oh my god, can I I thought this was going to be zone two.

43:27 Listen, we I’m I’m a big fan of one hit a week. Don’t overdo it cuz that will gas you and hurt your adrenals. But if

43:33 you do one hit a week, I mean, for your cardiovascular system. I love I agree. I agree. Ocean or mountains?

43:41 Ocean. Okay. Um

43:47 I have I at the end I have two things, but that’s all I have for you. Like to get to know you and like know, you

43:55 know, we did that one podcast a long time ago, but um you know, what about you?

44:01 Warm or cold? I got ones for you. Warm. Warm.

44:07 Okay. If Okay, this is a good one. If I love you, Rob, I don’t want you to die. But

44:13 if Rob died tomorrow, what would you not know how to do? Like what what does he just take care of?

44:18 Everything. Everything. I wouldn’t know how to pay my bill. I

44:24 wouldn’t know. It would be really bad. Um, a lot. Like

44:31 I I let me just think about my day this morning. Like I don’t know. I don’t I It’s not that I don’t know how I don’t

44:36 make my coffee. I usually don’t make my breakfast. I don’t make my like espresso shots that I love. I don’t do my

44:43 laundry. Like nothing. Like he just helps I don’t know take care of me. So

44:48 there would be a lot that would be it would be bad. I definitely full disclosure don’t even know where all of

44:54 our bank accounts would be. Like we would be in trouble at modern indocrine. Not really but I would be happen to be like okay well how do we pay our bills?

45:05 That’s not my problem y’all. Like I’m really good at doctoring. Rob’s really good at financing. Like he’s good at

45:11 managing things and I’m good at doctoring. So there would be a lot. And Nelly would miss him so much. So it

45:17 would be really sad. We don’t want Rob to die. That’s fair. I was going to ask you dog or cat, but I know that answer. I feel

45:22 like I was going to say I feel like our listeners probably know that answer, too. Mhm. Oh, you know what else would be

45:28 really bad if Rob died. Really bad. Um, in all seriousness, Rob is like probably

45:35 the only reason I ever stop working because I always have so many things to do. And so, he will be like, “Hey, we’re

45:42 going out of town and you’re not working.” And when we go out of town, he will literally take my computer and be like, “Is somebody dying?” And I’m like,

45:47 “No.” He’s like, “Then you’re not opening your computer today. You’ve worked every day for 15 days.” And like he doesn’t do it a lot, but if it

45:53 weren’t for Rob, I probably would never not work. So that would also be really bad for my health. Like

45:59 Okay. So, so then I probably know this answer. I feel like others do too. So what is

46:05 the hard like what is the advice you give our patients that you have a hard time following yourself?

46:10 Oh, 100%. It’s like shutting it off. I think it it changes though. So, like two

46:16 years ago, I look back on pictures. It’s funny. I was I was talking to Rob about this like January of 23, probably in the

46:22 best shape of my life I’ve been in in my late 30s. Um, zero cares in the world.

46:28 Didn’t have a lot going on. Had just started my own practice. Didn’t really know what the heck was going on, but wasn’t like super worried about it. Now,

46:36 there’s just so many things going on that like it’s really hard for me to take days off and to relax and rest.

46:44 like I tell people to because I like am on the verge of this mountain that is

46:49 going to be so powerful for so many people and for me it’s just like I don’t know I just I’m excited about it too. So

46:55 it’s not like I feel the other problem is like so yesterday was Sunday right super nice outside yesterday beautiful I

47:01 sat outside and worked on my book all day for like 14 hours but it almost doesn’t feel like work because I’m like

47:08 so excited and passionate about it and I know it’s going to help probably a million people. So for me, I think it’s

47:13 just hard because right now I have all these cool things going on. If I didn’t have cool [ __ ] going on, then I wouldn’t want to work all the time, you know? So

47:19 it’s I don’t know. I think that’s the hardest part for me is literally I am going to do that this weekend though. I’m not going to work on Saturday,

47:25 Sunday, or Monday. I promised my husband. So I’m going to go 3 days. There’s no work coming out of this human. Um but I think that’s the hardest

47:33 part for me right now. I’ll check in on that. We we do hold each other accountable. So I’ll check in on that. I’m not working on Saturday, Sunday, or

47:39 Monday. I am out of commission. done. Yeah. And I think I I think what’s hard though

47:45 with for us shutting our work off is like we talked about earlier is like we care so much. And I mean I told you I

47:53 had Friday off and today off but I logged on this afternoon and I had like 25 messages and I was like, “Oh my gosh,

48:00 like these people are waiting to hear back from me.” And I know you feel the same way. And we’re like, “Okay, we got to like try to work through it.” And

48:06 that’s why we appreciate all of our patients when they’re nice and patient with us and our response because we are

48:13 human and we do have to take some time for ourselves and our mental health and our adrenal fatigue and our kids and you

48:20 know your um other things you’ve got going on outside of modern endocrine and Rob and everything. So um it’s hard for

48:27 us to take a beat because we care so much, right? 100%. I would completely agree

48:34 with that. It’s um yeah, but it’s I don’t know. It’s super exciting too though, right? So, I think that’s my

48:41 number one thing is just like resting and um just taking that time to like

48:47 recharge and regener like just be ready for the for the next week, but I’m

48:52 almost almost there. So, it’s exciting and it’s it’s hard sometimes because

48:57 you’re like, you know, do I do this? Do I go to bed? But also, I’m that type of person where and some people may not

49:03 understand this. A I’m the type of person where if I really love something that I’m doing, it doesn’t feel as much

49:08 like work. And it’s just like I want to I want to do this. I want to get it done. I want to give it to people to like help them. So, that’s my biggest

49:15 struggle right now. And I know it. And I’m almost done. Getting close. You are getting close.

49:22 I’m proud of you. I am. Yeah.

49:27 So that’s my biggest. Yeah. Mine’s water intake. I tell patients all the time, you need your

49:33 water. Stay hydrated. Yeah, you do. You are always drinking your water. I I I try

49:40 really, really hard. I get it, but I try really, really hard. That’s something that I always have to think about. It’s

49:45 not second nature for me. And it’s not like I fill it with other things. cuz I drink water and coffee and element or

49:50 like some type of electrolyte. But it’s just cuz I Yeah, I feel like everything else we

49:56 tell our patients to do I do a pretty good job about. Like I’m mindful, I walk. I don’t eat like a third grader.

50:02 Like I try to do most of it. It’s just the whole relaxing, calming down situation. But again, it goes back to

50:08 the fact that like anything that I do, I’m doing hopefully to help the like so

50:13 many other people. It’s just it’s kind of cool when you sit and think about like we’re such a sometimes like for

50:20 instance I’ll just give you a prime example yesterday morning I woke up at 6:30 in like this just weird place like

50:27 woke up heart beating really fast no idea why alarm didn’t go off just like autonomic nervous systems pissed off

50:34 like just and I could hear you in my ear like did you take your adaptogens did you you all

50:40 did you deb breathe and pray and meditate I so I literally like got up, I

50:45 meditated, I prayed, I took my adaptogens, I went for a walk, but like I was kind of having all these things

50:51 going through my head with just like, “Oh my god, am I dying?” No, none of that was happening. It’s just I think

50:56 like subconsciously I was thinking about before I went to bed like we are such a small speck in the world compared to

51:02 like everything that’s going on. And sometimes you get so wrapped up in yourself that it’s like if you really

51:08 step back and take a big picture kind of like with patients, right? like if you get wrapped up in one symptom instead of looking at the whole patient. We’re just

51:14 this tiny speck in the world at like hoping to make that ripple that I told you about. And so I don’t know, it’s

51:20 just kind of cool, but also at the same time I want to do things that are very impactful for people that help them

51:26 continue to make those ripples. So it’s just interesting. I just needed a little bit of like wooa. And then I sat outside

51:32 and worked my book and I was fine. And I did take my adaptogens before I went to bed. And I’m going to take I took my

51:38 adaptogens this morning. like good. Your provider’s proud of you. Yes, I did. And I and I meditated and it

51:44 was fine. But it was it’s interesting. You know, sometimes when you sometimes when you get all wrapped up in these

51:50 things, it’s like you really sometimes need to take a step back and be like in the big picture, does this really matter? Like last night, too, I was so

51:57 tired. It was 11:00 and I was like, should I just stay up and finish this book? And then I’m like, no, I can do it

52:02 tomorrow. You know, in the grand scheme of things, is me staying up till 2 a.m. going to fix this? No. like and it’s

52:08 going to just take away from all my patients tomorrow. So sometimes you just have to like

52:13 rein it in a little bit. Yeah. No, I I agree. You kind of have to think like if like what would I tell myself if I was

52:20 my provider type of thing or and I know we tell each other too. Um but you know

52:26 like yeah that that can wait until tomorrow. Go don’t miss bedtime. Go do you know the important stuff with your

52:32 family. Um, and give, you know, put back into yourself is huge. Um,

52:38 I often find myself thinking, what would Summer say? I often also find myself thinking, what would Jan say? She’s my

52:44 therapist. Um, which is kind of funny because sometimes I’ll be like, what would Jan do?

52:49 They’re both telling me the same thing, you know, or what would she tell me to say or not do? So, I’m like, okay, I

52:56 guess that I maybe that’s just you’re getting older and wiser. I don’t know. But maybe what are you most proud of to date

53:03 with Modern Endocrine? Oh wow. Um that’s a really hard

53:08 question. I think I’m really proud right now of like the team that we’ve built. It’s really hard to start a business,

53:16 build a team from the ground up, especially when you have a lot of changes. So what I’ve learned is like

53:21 modern indocrine has changed so much in 3 years. And if you really want to be impactful and have really, you know,

53:28 good people working with you, it’s hard to find people that are adaptive to change. Most people don’t like change.

53:35 And so modern friends is going to keep changing and you have to have people that want to be there and that support

53:42 you and see the vision and know that sometimes we’re building the plane while we’re flying it. And that’s really hard.

53:48 And 5 months ago, we did not have that team. Um, and I knew it. I knew in my

53:53 heart like in December of last year, we needed to make some decisions, uh, some changes at Modern Endocrine, but it hurt

53:59 my heart because the people that I knew that were on the team that were prohibiting us from accelerating. Um,

54:05 and so I did what most people would do, which was I didn’t make those hard decisions. I just was like, I’m going to

54:10 ride it out. I’m going to ride it out. And then eventually you have to make those decisions and things kind of come

54:15 crashing down. And so in May, we made a lot of changes. But I think I’m most proud right now. I Everyone that works

54:21 at Modern Endocrine, I think, really wants to work there. They’re there for the right reasons. We have a really solid team. And when you have a really

54:27 solid team of people who have the vision that you have and the empathy that you have, like you it mean you can teach

54:34 people medicine, right? Like I can teach Dustin and Lacy and you how to take care of people. I cannot teach you empathy

54:40 and drive and compassion and like this is where we’re going. And so I’m really proud right now that we have this team

54:46 of people who I think all and Sarah, they all want to do what I want to do, which is make people better. And every

54:51 even our MAS, right, like Kate and um

54:57 and Emily, like Jesse, all of our nurses, like they all want to Yeah. They all want to make people

55:03 better. And our front desk staff are all amazing. Um Candace and Allan, like everyone that works there wants to

55:09 actually help people. And so I’m most proud of that right now than anything because it’s really really hard. If

55:15 you’re listening to this and you own a business, you know, man, the first three years, I never want to start a business

55:21 again from the ground up. Ever. Never. It’s like been the worst the most

55:27 challenging thing. Um, but I’m really proud of the people that we have and just like I think that’s to me what I’m

55:34 the most proud of. Like if I were a patient, I would come to Modern Endocrine. Well, I mean, I do come to Modern Endocrine, but um

55:41 Yeah, you’re welcome. I think that’s Yeah, I think that’s really cool is like we just have this really cool group of people. We don’t

55:47 have attitude. Nobody gives me attitude. Nobody, you know, Oh, Jonathan. I forgot about Jonathan, too. Um, but

55:54 he’s been so good. Like, he’s he has learned on the fly. He’s been doing a good job. So, I just I think that we have a really

56:01 cool team right now. So, I’m the most proud of of that with Modern Integr. And

56:06 as far as like outside of modern endocrine personal, like outside of all of that, I think the thing I’m the most

56:12 proud of honestly is the fact that I am going to finish this book because I’m going to be honest with you. I was like,

56:17 I’m never going to write a book. If you would have told me two years ago write a book, like you’re crazy. I can barely

56:22 read books to be honest with you. Like I have a slight form of dyslexia which is why med school was hard for me. I listen

56:28 to a lot of things. Um and I make like stories in my head. So if you would have been like, “Oh, you’re going to write a

56:33 book.” I’d have been like, “You’re crazy.” And then whenever the thought popped in my head and I wanted to write it, I was like, “Okay.” I got super

56:39 excited about it. I started to write it. It’s really freaking hard. It’s so hard. And then it didn’t come out how I wanted

56:44 it to come out and I got this 900page manuscript and I was like, “This is complete garbage and it’s way too much work. I’m just going to trash it.” And

56:50 then I let it set for several months. Um, and then I went back to it. I was like, “No, it’s so bad still.” And it

56:57 was so hard editing it. And then I started doubting myself like, well, maybe I shouldn’t write this book and

57:03 this book isn’t going to help anyone and it’s going to be crappy. And so then I let it set some more. And then about 6

57:09 weeks ago, somebody that I know that read it from the beginning was like they kind of were like, “You got to get your

57:15 head out of your ass and fix your book because it’s actually going to be really good and it’s going to help people and you’re just being really stupid.” And I

57:22 was like, “But it’s going to be a lot of work still.” And they were like, “And?” I was like, “Fine.” So, like six weeks

57:28 ago, I really got in there and started like trying to fix it again. And I will tell you, last night I finished I have one chapter left. But I finished a

57:35 chapter last night and when I was laying in bed, I was like, “You know what? I’m really glad that person said that to me because I really do think it’s going to

57:41 help a lot of people.” So, I’m actually proud that I went back and I’m going to finish it because every part of me wanted to just be like, “Eh, I have a

57:47 million other things going on. I don’t need to finish this book.” So, I’m excited about that. I’m going to do it.

57:53 I’m going to finish it and it’s not going to stop. It’s going to be amazing.

58:00 What about you? What’s What’s one of the things you’re most proud about? Um,

58:06 let’s see here. I mean, I I love our team. I think we all get along great.

58:11 Um, and we I my big thing is I want work to be fun. I want everybody to have fun together. Um, and I know, you know, like

58:19 I always put the music on and I always love to play who sings a song and like keep people engaged and laughing. And

58:25 so, um, I just I love the like camaraderie we have, um, with our MAS

58:31 and our nurses and our front desk to just be able to joke around, um, through

58:36 the day, the majority of the day, but be serious when we need to be serious and get things done how they need to get

58:43 done efficiently. Um, so I I’m proud of the team that we have. I’m I’m with you.

58:49 I agree. I’m proud of our group that we have together. I I think everybody just

58:54 views each other as equals. Um you know the MAS you guys just because they have

59:02 MA behind their name does not mean anything as far as knowledge goes. They know so much. I mean and they’re like

59:09 Kenisha and Emily came from another functional office before ours and like just like we have ideas. They have you

59:16 know like hey we used to do something this way we’re doing it this way. Hey, can you explain why? And explaining and

59:24 having them completely comprehend and understand and then have them be like, hey, I got this, y’all. You have this

59:30 message. Um, this is why we’re doing XYZ and spot on. You guys have it right. And

59:36 so, their willingness to learn and with us, from us, and work with us, like, I’m

59:41 proud of I’m proud of those guys. What about outside of work, though? I think I know what you should be most proud about, but I’m curious what you

59:48 thought. Um, you know, I’d like to say this is

59:53 probably a working mom’s like nightmare is I’d like to say how proud I am about trying to balance both, but I honestly

1:00:00 feel like I fail at it quite a bit. Uh, just because, you know, getting the kids up you or I guess work waking up,

1:00:07 working out, getting breakfast, getting the kids up, taking them to school, go to work, take get pick them up from

1:00:12 school, go to T-ball practice, make dinner, and put them to bed. You feel like you miss quality time. um through

1:00:18 the day. And so I’m proud of my ability to do that, although I still feel like it’s it can be a failure because you

1:00:25 don’t get to spend as much intentional time as you’d like to. So I struggle with that balance a lot. Um and I all my

1:00:31 friends, I know you know that with me, so I’m I’m pretty open about that.

1:00:36 Yeah. Well, I was going to say I think that you should be the most proud of the fact that you have at least trip. So,

1:00:42 like your youngest one, Skyler, doesn’t doesn’t talk as much, but I think you’re making a awesome little human and two

1:00:50 awesome little humans, but Trip, you know, like he was at the office a couple times and he’s just funny and he’s like,

1:00:55 you’re making this cool little human that’s going to be, you know, a awesome part of society. And although you feel

1:01:01 like you missed time with him and all these, I mean, even if you didn’t work, he’s going to go to school, right? I

1:01:06 mean, he’s going to do other things. And when you drop him off, he’s like, “Bye, mom.” like you know oh doesn’t think twice he’s like see you

1:01:12 he does tell me he loves me still so I hope that doesn’t go away but yeah and you also have to realize

1:01:18 too that like what fills your cup you love hate taking care of people you love you know so it is hard to balance it but

1:01:24 like I do think that you’re doing an amazing job raising these little humans that are hilarious and love to eat

1:01:30 peanut butter so you know and Trip thinks everything is easy now Summer was telling me so because Summer makes

1:01:36 everything you know seem so easy he’s like oh mom I got it It’s easy. Um, it’s just cute.

1:01:43 Like, oh man, we got to give you some adversity because you’re and you leave the peanut butter out so

1:01:49 easily that he can just open it anytime he wants and stick his toys in there and eat it. So, like the problem was it was four shelves

1:01:55 high. He climbed four shelves to pick out the peanut butter and go hide and eat it. He was three at that time. So,

1:02:01 you know, uh, no, they’re they’re they’re great kids. Yeah, I think you’re doing a great job.

1:02:07 And most moms out there probably feel that way. Even humans. Like I have a dog and I feel like that sometimes. I’m

1:02:13 like, “God, did I brush my teeth? Have I seen my husband? Did I tell him I love him?” Like, I mean, I think that’s just

1:02:18 everyone. But you have to just kind of take a step back sometimes and think like, “Well, this is this is the world.”

1:02:24 Like, you know, this is the world we live in. Um, and maybe not everything is big of a disaster as we always put it

1:02:30 out to be, right? For sure. And I will say like you know going back to the beginning where your question of you know er and you know

1:02:36 being here with modern endocrine uh you know both of them had like tummy bugs

1:02:41 two two three weeks ago and you know I said hey like I got to bring them to the

1:02:46 office or I can’t come and you know you’re like bring like that’s totally fine let’s go like you know they were in

1:02:52 a room they watched movies they ran through the hallway hallway and yelled mom a few times so I appreciate

1:02:58 everybody who uh beared with us when they did that. But, you know, to have

1:03:03 that ability like, you know, I’m super grateful for that, too, cuz it it is it’s it takes a village for sure.

1:03:09 Okay. Well, you got anything else? Um, yeah. What are So, you always ask

1:03:17 everybody, but has anyone ever asked you like what’s your favorite food and why? I don’t know if anyone’s ever asked me

1:03:22 what my favorite food is and why. I think Yeah. What would you tell people to eat? Yeah. I think right now my favorite food

1:03:29 is bone broth because I it’s so it’s really good for your stomach. It helps

1:03:34 wake up your digestive fire. It’s good protein. Um it has collagen. So I think

1:03:41 bone broth is my favorite food. Like you know I drink it every morning just out of a coffee mug. But great protein, good

1:03:47 collagen, wakes up your digestive fire, heals your gut. There’s nothing bad about it. Super easy.

1:03:52 Okay. And then what is your other ones? Uh what would you tell yourself? But your younger self isn’t that one.

1:03:58 Um, one of the What is one thing that’s free for your health? I would say walking outside, like getting sunlight

1:04:04 and going for a walk. Completely free. And I try to do that every single day. And what is one thing I wish I would

1:04:10 have known about my health 15 years ago that I would have done differently? I would have found a functional medicine provider like Modern Endocrine instead

1:04:17 of taking those [ __ ] answers from the doctor that gave me really, really, really you’re hypo. You’re hyper all the time.

1:04:23 Yeah. Like, you know, if whenever I knew something in my stomach was wrong, I wish I would have listened to myself.

1:04:28 And I that’s what I would have done differently is I would have found a functional I didn’t even know what functional medicine was. And I was in medical school, y’all. And then I was in

1:04:35 residency. Like, what is functional medicine? Um, I wish that I would have known half of what I know now because I

1:04:42 would have found a functional medicine doctor and I probably would have been so much better off. you know, my thyroid was so out of whack and then I got such

1:04:49 bad insulin resistance and PCOS to the point where it really affected my fertility, which is frustrating. Um, and

1:04:55 so I would have found somebody when I was in my mid20s and I would have fixed it so I wouldn’t have had to deal with

1:05:01 all the issues I had to in my 30s. So that’s definitely what I wish I would have known. Yeah, that’s fair. That’s good. I think

1:05:08 that adds to the value though. Like I feel like as providers in functional medicine, I mean even outside our

1:05:15 clinic, you typically hear, “Oh, I had cancer and that’s what led me down this route. I dealt with in your case PCOS,

1:05:21 fertility, uh hyper hypothyroidism and that’s what led me down this route.” Um

1:05:26 I saw, you know, the band-aid medicine and whatnot. So like everybody has

1:05:32 personal stake in this area of medicine. Patients as well, they’re at their wits end and they’ve got personal stake in

1:05:38 this area of medicine. So, um I think that’s that’s the coolest part of how it all can come together in the functional

1:05:43 side. So, I want to end by telling you two things really quickly. One of them is the most common compliment I hear about

1:05:50 you from patients. So, I think the most common compliment I hear about you from patients is just it’s literally Summer

1:05:56 is awesome. She is so awesome. She’s just like you. She listens and she puts things together. I even had a patient

1:06:03 say Summer’s just like you but blonde.

1:06:09 I dig it. Let’s go. I know. So, maybe you should get dark hair. No, I’m just kidding. Oh, well, naturally, it’s dark and I

1:06:16 haven’t been dark since I was like in the fourth grade, so I think that would be a surprise for everybody. Go back dark. Um, so I think that’s one

1:06:24 of the things that I, you know, that’s the most common compliment that I hear is that you take the time to listen to them. So, basically, when somebody tells

1:06:30 me your nurse practitioner is just like you, then I know I’ve done a really good job. I feel like a proud mom, right?

1:06:35 because everyone that I want to work at Modern Endocrine, I want to be a direct reflection of myself and what we want to

1:06:41 do there. So, I think that that’s like the best compliment you can get. And people tell me that all the time. So,

1:06:46 that’s the most common compliment I hear about you. And something I personally appreciate about you the most I think is

1:06:52 the one thing I appreciate is your attitude because you do have a really good attitude. You try to stay positive.

1:06:58 you try to keep people like in a you know a good just a good headsp space even when you know the last year has

1:07:04 been a little rough at modern indocrine well the first year was really bad this last year hasn’t been as bad but you didn’t you weren’t here the first year

1:07:11 uh but when things change it’s hard you know and I I mean I just it is there’s

1:07:16 nothing you can say you make people mad when you change how you do things you make people mad when you don’t take insurance but ultimately when you have

1:07:23 your north star like I just have to keep my north star and so I tried at the best

1:07:28 I can with everything going on to keep everyone, you know, focused on that north star. And so I’ve appreciated, you

1:07:34 know, I tell you like this is what we’re doing. This is what we’re trying to do. And you’re just like, okay. And you have a good attitude about it. Uh you keep

1:07:41 everyone in a good attitude. And so I think I appreciate that the most about you. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. It’s

1:07:47 been it’s been a good fun year for sure. This fun word we would use or

1:07:53 It’s all about perspective. You got to think about it. It’s all about perspective. Yeah,

1:07:58 it’s been a good learning opportunity year. But I mean, again, I wouldn’t take it back. And I think I think the we’ve

1:08:05 got a lot of really fun stuff coming. But it’s just all a part of like growing pains. I think, you know, if you’re

1:08:10 listening to this and you’re starting a business of any kind, even if it’s not medicine, it’s going to be hard. Like

1:08:15 100% it’s going to be hard. Not for the faint of heart, but you just I think it’s really important to have your northstar. Remember your northstar. I

1:08:23 have to tell myself my northstar a lot. I’ve had to it’s gotten a lot better, but like as long as you know that you’ll

1:08:29 you’ll get through it and then you’ll look back and be like, “Oh, okay. That’s why I did it.” And that’s what’s cool about now is like I’m finally getting to

1:08:34 the point where I’m like, “That’s why we did it.” Right. We’re getting there. We’re getting there

1:08:41 for sure. No. And we I mean, it’s proof is in the pudding. added two more providers because, you know, we’re we’re

1:08:48 both pretty booked, which is a bit the biggest blessing you could ask for, you know, and so we’re we’re both excited to

1:08:54 share that with them with Lacy and Dustin. Yeah. And we got really cool providers, too, which I’m

1:08:59 and they both kind of just fell in our lap. This is the coolest thing, too. Like I was trying to figure out like, do we need more providers? Do we not? And

1:09:06 then I prayed a lot about like, well, I want to get a really good one. I don’t want to get a crappy one. And it’s like, where do you find them? And then Lacy

1:09:12 just kind of fell in our literally you were you and I were talking about this and I get an email and I still don’t even know how she found us, but she sent

1:09:18 me an email and was like, “Oh, I’m in nursing school and I want to shadow you.” I think she found me on social

1:09:24 media or something. And then she came and and I wasn’t going to let her shadow. Was not going to let her shadow. Um cuz I was like, “I’m too busy for

1:09:30 this. I had to fill out all this paperwork. I had to get an attorney to review this paperwork. It ended up costing me $350 to let her shadow me.”

1:09:35 And I was so pissed about it. And then I was like, “Whatever.” uh because it just ended up taking all this time and I was

1:09:41 just like this I was like this better not be annoying and the first day she showed up she was like amazing and I was

1:09:46 like okay got it God thank you for reminding me that I’m being an [ __ ] and then um yeah and then she just she

1:09:52 was great she stayed with us for like 2 months and her eyes were always like this big and I could just tell that she loved it and then you know we got Dustin

1:09:59 by way of I sort of joked with him but he was one of my patients and we he used to have you know traditional medicine

1:10:06 and then literally one day I was kind of joking working with him, but I had been like talking to Summer and kind of praying about like, “We need another

1:10:11 provider.” And then I was like, “You should come to the not dark side of medicine.” And he was like, “Well, okay.” And I was like, “Wait, are you

1:10:17 serious?” And he’s like, “Well, yeah. I mean, I’ve been through it all now and you changed my life and like I would do it.” And I was like, “Well, I guess

1:10:23 that’s my there’s my sign.” Like, it’s just kind of cool. Well, I remember we were talking about that.

1:10:29 Yeah, we were talking about that and I was like, “Well, I know Dustin.” And you were like, “Really?” And I was like, “Yeah, I went to nursing school with him

1:10:35 like at UCO. We were in the same nursing class.” And so, you know, things kind of come full full circle where it’s like he

1:10:41 I mean, y’all, he was like the smart like one of the smartest kids in the class. He was he and I mean, you talk to

1:10:47 him one time and you’ll be like, “Oh, yeah, that makes sense for sure.” Cuz he he’s great. But I was like, “You have to

1:10:52 like if he’s open to it, you got to do that for sure.” He’s super smart and he’s so funny and

1:10:59 Lacy is too. So, yeah. Oh, it’s awesome. Very well. About our little family.

1:11:05 Okay. So, okay, I’ll let you get back to your life, but thank you for coming on and, you know,

1:11:11 introducing yourself to all of our listeners. I’m sure that they appreciate it. Maybe they hated us rambling. I don’t know. But,

1:11:17 I guess we’ll find out. Maybe we’ll do this again. We’ll call it unhinge. We’ll all four get on here with

1:11:24 like a glass of sparkling water and just like go at it. I don’t know. We’ll see. I know. We need like a like a we need a

1:11:31 few panel episodes. It’s like common questions and stuff like that we can just kind of go unhinged on cuz

1:11:37 we should totally do that. I’ll put something on social. All right. Thank you. Okay. Bye.

1:11:42 So, this was a very different type of episode. I appreciate you guys listening until the very end. If you like this and

1:11:48 you want me to do more episodes like this, just more kind of unhinged me talking in general. Leave me a review

1:11:54 wherever you get this podcast episode. Let me know, hey, I really like this episode. Do more of this. Do solo.

1:11:59 Whatever. Let me know what you need. But I just want you guys to know Summer and I and everyone that works in modern endocrine, we’re real humans, right? And

1:12:06 so we struggle with things, too. And we just want to be real with you and and let you know about some of those things.

1:12:12 I hope you learned something about Summer. I if you’re thinking of being a patient at Modern Endocrine, she is a

1:12:18 phenomenal provider. She’s mine. Everyone that works at Modern Endocrine is is wonderful. And so now you know a

1:12:23 little bit more about her. Keep in mind if you do want to be a patient at Modern Endocrine, we now have a license in 44

1:12:29 or 45 states. Um, all of those states can be found on our website. So, we

1:12:34 would love to see you and help you through your journey. Our gut health accelerator program is live on a webinar

1:12:40 monthly and so we do a ton of stuff to help you with your gut health. My book is coming out within the next month or

1:12:46 two and it’s going to be phenomenal. It’s going to teach you so much about your gut and your hormones. And lastly,

1:12:52 make sure you’re following us on social media. We give so much free, good

1:12:57 educational information on social media. I appreciate your time. Thank you so

1:13:02 much for spending it with us and learning a few things. Have a wonderful week.

1:13:09 The information presented, including any materials discussed, referenced or linked within this podcast are for

1:13:15 general educational purposes only, not the practice of medicine. No doctor

1:13:20 patient relationship is formed from you listening to this podcast or utilizing any of the information provided. I am a

1:13:27 doctor, but I am not talking to you as your doctor. The information provided is not intended to diagnose or treat health

1:13:34 problems or take the place of the professional medical care provided by your doctor. If you are experiencing any

1:13:41 health problems, including problems you believe have been touched upon in any respect within this podcast, you should

1:13:48 consult your doctor about the problems without delay. You may ask your doctor whether he or she believes the

1:13:54 information I have provided would be helpful to you, but you should still consult your doctor immediately and

1:14:00 follow his or her medical advice as your treating physician. I’m just here to provide you basic knowledge about the

1:14:06 issues we discuss so you are more aware of them and can better discuss them with your doctor. That’s why we call it back

1:14:13 to the basics. Join me on the next episode as we continue our journey.

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Disclaimer:

The information presented including any materials discussed, referenced, or linked within this podcast are for general educational purposes only, not the practice of medicine.

No doctor-patient relationship is formed from you listening to this podcast or utilizing any of the information provided.

I am a doctor, but I am not talking to you as your doctor. The information provided is not intended to diagnose or treat health problems or take the place of the professional medical care provided by your doctor.

If you are experiencing any health problems, including problems you believe have been touched upon in any respect within this podcast, you should consult your doctor about the problems without delay. You may ask your doctor whether he or she believes the information I have provided would be helpful to you, but you should still consult your doctor immediately and follow his or her medical advice as your treating physician.

I’m just here to provide you with basic knowledge about the issues we discuss so you are more aware of them and can better discuss them with your doctor.

That’s why we call it Back to the Basics. Join me on the next episode as we continue our journey.